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Post by tzigone on Oct 31, 2017 22:32:44 GMT
Just a shoutout -if anyone out there is able to clearly see the text on the family plaque when Fi is following the Banshee through the hallway, please let me know. I've love a translation. I did have the original script at one time and was going to check it to see if it mentioned prop (though I think I did before and it didn't) but my hard drive cashed and I no longer have the script and it's no longer on the dropbox link.
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Post by Geno Cuddy on Dec 10, 2017 19:19:28 GMT
Just a shoutout -if anyone out there is able to clearly see the text on the family plaque when Fi is following the Banshee through the hallway, please let me know. I've love a translation. I did have the original script at one time and was going to check it to see if it mentioned prop (though I think I did before and it didn't) but my hard drive cashed and I no longer have the script and it's no longer on the dropbox link. Sadly, this won't be of much help, but I attempted to sharpen the image at just the right moment but it was still unreadable, by design those old celtic fonts are hard to discern but at 480p its a tedious affair. I looked through the script and it made no mention of the text on the coat of arms. So sorry I couldn't help, perhaps tweet Jon Cooksey, he seems eager to talk to So Weird fans and perhaps he holds the answer you seek.
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Post by bindid24 on Dec 13, 2017 0:28:42 GMT
I have a few thoughts about this episode. First, Jack and Gabe? Anyone else read his email to Gabe? He shares his fears, his vulnerabilities with her. Which is I think is a really good thing for him. Because we know that he generally puts on a strong face with Molly and Fi (that heartbreaking scene from "Medium" ..aww). Gabe is someone he doesn't have to have that pretense with, at least not regarding his family. Fi is scared about Grandpa, so he tells her it's nothing so as not to worry her more (not really a successful course of action), but with Gabe he can tell her he's scared, admit it openly. Plus there's the original script line about passing the angel on to grandchildren. Secondly, there's all the O'Shannon backstory. And O'Shannon was grandma's maiden name right? But her mother seems to have been of the O'Shannon bloodline, not just married in? Cousin marriage, grandma illegitimate, or have I just misremembered the details? The banshee says she's met Fiona before. Fi presumes the banshee is thinking of her great grandmother, but the banshee says she knows who Fi is. So, has she met Fi before? Is time travel in her future? Ideas? Lastly, one really interesting part I didn't really think about until my most recent viewing. Colin says Molly isn't a fighter. He's right. She's not. Rick was fighter; Molly would have rather buried her head in the sand, and kept her family safe (or, safe for the time being - but the safety is really only an illusion, long-term). Fi is a fighter. The things that terrify others don't scare her as badly. And even when she is scared, it doesn't stop her. John called it "brave" though we can admit sometimes "reckless" might be a better description. Anyway, it's just a dichotomy between Molly and Fi that I had never thought of using that vocabulary. One a fighter, one not. I just watched this episode the other day! I love that they kept Jack in touch with Gabe and their little love story and am super annoyed that they decided to completely ignore it in season three. I think in terms of the O'Sianhan bloodline, it was that great-grandma Fiona kept her maiden name. Or maybe it was all of the O'Sianhan's kept their maiden name, until Kathleen married Colin and decided to take his name? Maybe when the banshee told Fiona that she met her before, maybe she meant her soul? Since Jack's soul was reincarnated from a knight to protect Fi, then maybe the banshee knows her soul. I truly think Molly was a fighter, but after what happened with Rick, she let her fear overtake her and that's when she stopped fighting, because for her, Rick fought the paranormal and that's what ended up taking his life, even if Molly doesn't know that's why he was killed. It's still the principle of him going out to investigate something and because of that, he had his accident. Plus we've kind of been given clues throughout the first two seasons that Molly did believe in the paranormal, at least maybe to an extent, before Rick was killed.
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Post by tzigone on Dec 17, 2017 18:49:03 GMT
Oh, I definitely agree Molly did (and does) believe in the paranormal. Just doesn't want Fi to, for safety reasons. We'll have to disagree on Molly being a fighter - in the flashbacks we saw, she was begging Rick not fight when he was still alive (because of premonitions, of course).
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Post by Geno Cuddy on Dec 22, 2017 17:04:08 GMT
This episode holds special resonance for me, given my father and grandfather died the same year back in 2002, when I was six, I cried when Fi yelled at the Banshee "I WANT MY GRANDPA TO LIVE", I was and still am a bit of an atheist, as I felt God stole my loved ones, just last year I felt I was robbed again when My aunt was murdered. Cara should have gotten an Emmy or at least a Young Artists Award. Cara got screwed by the system, no wonder she leads a rather reclusive life now. I miss you dad, Bumpy and Aunt Sandy, the Banshee took you all too soon.
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Post by tzigone on Dec 5, 2019 22:52:47 GMT
Just a shoutout -if anyone out there is able to clearly see the text on the family plaque when Fi is following the Banshee through the hallway, please let me know. I've love a translation. I did have the original script at one time and was going to check it to see if it mentioned prop (though I think I did before and it didn't) but my hard drive cashed and I no longer have the script and it's no longer on the dropbox link.
Once anyone can see this on Disney+, can you let me know if it's legible, please?
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Post by Mischievous Monkey on Dec 7, 2019 2:46:18 GMT
I can't tell if that first letter is a D or an O and the second one could be an A or a U... the second word might be all M's? And the third word might be "tuimid" (These are all guesses.)
The last three words, to me, look like "ceangailte a cheile".
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Post by tzigone on Dec 8, 2019 14:46:57 GMT
I can't tell if that first letter is a D or an O and the second one could be an A or a U... the second word might be all M's? And the third word might be "tuimid" (These are all guesses.)
The last three words, to me, look like "ceangailte a cheile".
Thanks. I''ve been trying to get a translation. So apparently " ceangailte le chéile" means yoked together (from a quick Google search). I'm trying to figure out their family motto (if that's what it is).
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Post by Mischievous Monkey on Dec 9, 2019 12:04:58 GMT
The family motto (or crest?) isn't something I ever noticed in the rips we had. That screengrab was from my computer of the D+ eps. It might be better/easier to read on an actual tv though? I also wonder if asking Jon will be most accurate? It's a thought.
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Post by thebossapplesauce on Dec 10, 2019 5:14:21 GMT
I was thinking of asking Annmarie Cullen. She is from Ireland so she would know.
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Post by SoWeirdFan on Dec 21, 2019 13:11:48 GMT
The man who played Fi’s Grandfather in this episode was just in the Hallmark Christmas Movie Picture A Perfect Christmas as a Pagent director.
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Post by Mischievous Monkey on Feb 19, 2020 20:19:49 GMT
I'm rewatching Vampire and "Muintir" on the crest from the Banshee ep shows up as Fi's password to her personal journal. I don't know if anyone's caught that before, but I thought it was a great connection.
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Post by writerchic16 on Apr 5, 2020 2:15:21 GMT
Secondly, there's all the O'Shannon backstory. And O'Shannon was grandma's maiden name right? But her mother seems to have been of the O'Shannon bloodline, not just married in? Cousin marriage, grandma illegitimate, or have I just misremembered the details? The banshee says she's met Fiona before. Fi presumes the banshee is thinking of her great grandmother, but the banshee says she knows who Fi is. So, has she met Fi before? Is time travel in her future? Ideas? I think Grandma Kathleen technically calls it a "family name," so it could be through her mother. As for the Banshee knowing Fi, I always thought it referred to reincarnation. Fi is probably a reincarnation of an ancestor, maybe even Great-Grandma Fiona if she passed before Fi was born. Loved reading the script. I so wish we'd seen the spell book again before Lightning Rod (ugh), that scene with Grandma Kathleen would've been awesome. The little bonus details like where the grandparents lived, and Molly's brother, were great.
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Post by thebossapplesauce on Apr 6, 2020 4:40:30 GMT
Secondly, there's all the O'Shannon backstory. And O'Shannon was grandma's maiden name right? But her mother seems to have been of the O'Shannon bloodline, not just married in? Cousin marriage, grandma illegitimate, or have I just misremembered the details? The banshee says she's met Fiona before. Fi presumes the banshee is thinking of her great grandmother, but the banshee says she knows who Fi is. So, has she met Fi before? Is time travel in her future? Ideas? I think Grandma Kathleen technically calls it a "family name," so it could be through her mother. As for the Banshee knowing Fi, I always thought it referred to reincarnation. Fi is probably a reincarnation of an ancestor, maybe even Great-Grandma Fiona if she passed before Fi was born. This is actually a theory I came up with several rewatches ago! If you watch the scene in Banshee where Fi is looking into the light (or Death or whatever...), Fi's face fades in from a photo of her great grandmother. We know Jack fading into the knight's armor was in as an intentional clue to his past life as a knight... so, logically speaking, it's not too far out to think maybe Fi is the original Fiona, reborn.
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Post by thatshellaweird on Apr 9, 2020 3:03:43 GMT
I think Grandma Kathleen technically calls it a "family name," so it could be through her mother. As for the Banshee knowing Fi, I always thought it referred to reincarnation. Fi is probably a reincarnation of an ancestor, maybe even Great-Grandma Fiona if she passed before Fi was born. This is actually a theory I came up with several rewatches ago! If you watch the scene in Banshee where Fi is looking into the light (or Death or whatever...), Fi's face fades in from a photo of her great grandmother. We know Jack fading into the knight's armor was in as an intentional clue to his past life as a knight... so, logically speaking, it's not too far out to think maybe Fi is the original Fiona, reborn. That is such good reasoning, I totally didn't even think about that! I remember Jon Cooksey talked about how Jack allowed himself to be reincarnated as Fi's brother. I always wondered if Fi has also been on her journey for a long time, even before the original grandma Fiona.
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