|
Post by Rockerbaby on Sept 15, 2013 1:17:49 GMT
I am glad that so many people on here love Jack. He seems to have a lot of negativity directed towards him in the YouTube comments, and I think it's simply because people don't understand his character. He will always play devil's advocate with Fi because he wants her to be safe. He can be a bit of a jerk about it sometimes, but he isn't doing it just for the sake of being a jerk. Haha.
|
|
|
Post by O'Shannon's Banshee on Sept 15, 2013 2:00:58 GMT
I am glad that so many people on here love Jack. He seems to have a lot of negativity directed towards him in the YouTube comments, and I think it's simply because people don't understand his character. He will always play devil's advocate with Fi because he wants her to be safe. He can be a bit of a jerk about it sometimes, but he isn't doing it just for the sake of being a jerk. Haha. I agree. I also think back when we were younger and watching we identified more with Fi so people were like STUPID JACK but now that we're older we can understand why he did the things he did. I remember a few times I used to think 'that would have worked and been done so much faster if Jack had just believed Fi' or something like that.
|
|
|
Post by LittleDuck on Sept 15, 2013 2:35:43 GMT
Not to ruin anybody's headcanons on Jack and fatherhood, but I can actually kind of envision an entire movie based on Jack being one of those parents who only wants what's best for their teenage kids. Like if his kid wanted to become a paranormal investigator, he wouldn't stand for it and would try to push his kid into accounting or something practical like that. And then by the end of the movie, he would remember how his mom was a rock star who would always support him and Fi no matter what and he'd be a normal parent again XD
|
|
|
Post by O'Shannon's Banshee on Sept 15, 2013 2:53:17 GMT
Aww that would be interesting LittleDuck. Not sure if I agree 100% but it does seem plausible. We'll never know sadly. It's fun to imagine though. (Also, can I take a moment to comment on your avatar and how it made me laugh. )
|
|
|
Post by White Raven on Sept 15, 2013 6:17:53 GMT
I don't think Jack would be a pushy parent. If his kid was into paranormal stuff, I can see him laughing about it, putting a hand on the kid's shoulder and saying: "You know, you sound JUST like your Aunt Fi when you say things like that. Guess it runs in the family, " He might sigh and roll his eyes about it like he always did with Fi, but I don't think he would be the kind of dad who says: I FORBID you to do that! He might also say: "Three generations and counting...why am I NOT surprised?"
|
|
|
Post by LittleDuck on Sept 15, 2013 16:35:15 GMT
Lol at the last comment XD
I think Jack could go either way. I can see him going through a "I forbid you to do that" phase, if his kid is interested in doing something dangerous, but even I don't think it would last-- with the way Molly raised him and Fi, how could it? He would most likely lean more often to the democratic side of parenting than the authoritarian one. I just think if he puts too much stock into his sensible side as he grows into adulthood, he could be danger of being one of those overly-pushy parents. But even if he did become one, I can't picture that scenario without him coming to the realization that he's being a crappy, overly-pushy parent and that his mom didn't raise him that way.
|
|
|
Post by jannie101 on Oct 11, 2014 19:18:13 GMT
Does anyone else's gaydar go running wild when they see Jack and Clu together and think about the fact that they shared a room on the bus?
|
|
|
Post by LittleDuck on Oct 11, 2014 19:20:51 GMT
Not with Jack and Clu. I see them as purely bromance/besties. Jack and Lal on the other hand...he was awfully jealous of Lal and Molly's relationship....
|
|
|
Post by tzigone on Jan 9, 2016 2:56:26 GMT
You know, I love Jack. I mean, he's got flaws, and I don't always agree with his choice of action, but that makes him a well-rounded character and he is absolutely awesome on the whole. Fantastic. But my post today is not about his undisputed awesomeness. It's about the different ways he relates to Molly, Fi, and Gabe. And why I think Gabe is good for him.
The Phillips family dynamic is very interesting - and not entirely healthy. Don't get me wrong, on the whole they are a strong family and love each other, but there are definitely some dynamics that are troubling. Most of those are related to Rick's death the fear history repeating itself with Fi, though.
But anyway, Jack's very much a protector. I mean, hey, it was written into the storyline we didn't get. And he protects Molly by telling her what she wants to hear. He tells her Fi is fine when she's not. He's really very nurturing, for all that he's the child. He also gets very angry at Fi when she hurts Mom. He belittles her interest in the paranormal and insults her over it. I do think he at least somewhat remembers what happened with dad (his dream dialog), and this is his way of dissuading her, both to protect her and to make Molly feel better. And we know he protects Fi. No matter if he's angry, if she needs him, he's there. But he's always strong for Molly. And he comforts them; doesn't show his own vulnerability much (him crying outside the door being the most spectacular illustration of that. He doesn't much accept comfort from them. And that's why when I read his email to Gabe in "Banshee" I got the warm and fuzzies. He expresses that vulnerability to her. He tells her he's worried (even though he denied it and downplayed risk to Grandpa when speaking to Fi). Gabe is the one he can accept comfort from, that he doesn't have to "be strong" for, if you know what I mean. And I just like that.
|
|
|
Post by tzigone on Nov 5, 2016 1:39:18 GMT
Talked about Fi's flaw over on her thread, now it's Jack's turn. Like I said, he's a protector. But he's a kid, and he can be really stupid about it. He wants to protect both Fi and Molly - typically Fi physically and Molly emotionally, but he'll go the other way sometimes. So, to protect Fi, he wants to keep her out of the paranormal stuff. So he mocks and belittles her and refuses to accept the very ample evidence that he has seen. And obviously, this is a negative in his relationship with his sister (but it's overall good, of course). Also, he wants to protect Molly, so he really lights into Fi when she upsets Molly. And he's frequently trying to dissuade Fi from her mission. And, that protectiveness of them means he doesn't let them be strong for him. He pretends to be okay when he's not, pretends not to be worried when he is (just watched "Banshee"). They have some difficult family dynamics sometimes, but the bond are very strong. Makes for very engaging television.
|
|
|
Post by tzigone on Nov 14, 2016 1:33:54 GMT
So, I've noticed Jack always wears his watch on his right wrist - so he's left handed?
|
|
|
Post by Kathie on Dec 12, 2016 1:16:03 GMT
So, I've noticed Jack always wears his watch on his right wrist - so he's left handed? Hmm i think it's just personal preference. In the episode "Detention" from season 3, he's writing on the chalkboard with his right hand
|
|
|
Post by Kathie on Dec 12, 2016 1:19:53 GMT
You know, I love Jack. I mean, he's got flaws, and I don't always agree with his choice of action, but that makes him a well-rounded character and he is absolutely awesome on the whole. Fantastic. But my post today is not about his undisputed awesomeness. It's about the different ways he relates to Molly, Fi, and Gabe. And why I think Gabe is good for him. The Phillips family dynamic is very interesting - and not entirely healthy. Don't get me wrong, on the whole they are a strong family and love each other, but there are definitely some dynamics that are troubling. Most of those are related to Rick's death the fear history repeating itself with Fi, though. But anyway, Jack's very much a protector. I mean, hey, it was written into the storyline we didn't get. And he protects Molly by telling her what she wants to hear. He tells her Fi is fine when she's not. He's really very nurturing, for all that he's the child. He also gets very angry at Fi when she hurts Mom. He belittles her interest in the paranormal and insults her over it. I do think he at least somewhat remembers what happened with dad (his dream dialog), and this is his way of dissuading her, both to protect her and to make Molly feel better. And we know he protects Fi. No matter if he's angry, if she needs him, he's there. But he's always strong for Molly. And he comforts them; doesn't show his own vulnerability much (him crying outside the door being the most spectacular illustration of that. He doesn't much accept comfort from them. And that's why when I read his email to Gabe in "Banshee" I got the warm and fuzzies. He expresses that vulnerability to her. He tells her he's worried (even though he denied it and downplayed risk to Grandpa when speaking to Fi). Gabe is the one he can accept comfort from, that he doesn't have to "be strong" for, if you know what I mean. And I just like that. This is really great meta for Jack!!! and like you said on your other post, he protects Fi physically and Molly mentally. I love that!!!!!!!!
|
|
|
Post by entireoranges on Jan 23, 2019 21:06:41 GMT
Jack the most annoying, frustrating, but equally the most loving and protective brother, son, and friend. Though it would have been nice to see him spread his wings and do what he wanted without worrying about others in his life.
|
|